<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Dear all,</div><div>I have read the messages about saving back files .set (after for example ICA on eeglab) in formats readable by Net Station.</div><div>I have imported a .raw continous eeg recorded with net station, segmented with EEGLAB epoching tool in 300 epochs (3 conditions), run ICA, removed artifactual components and saved as ICA_pruned.set file. So far so good.</div><div>Then, I have opened the .set with EP toolkit and simply saved the file as both .egis and binary file. Net station is now able to open the epoched and pruned .egis file but there is not the event-list (it only distinguishes cell 1 and cell2), therefore I'm not able to run additional analyses like averaging.</div><div><br></div><div>How can I save in .raw format?</div><div><br></div><div>Is there any way to export or save the .egis file with the event list?Or simply to import an event-list on a continuous or segmented .raw file in Net station?</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe is better to segment before with net station and to run ICA on already segmented files instead of epoching with eeglab?</div><div><br></div><div>I realized that ICA is a beautiful tool for rejecting artifacts (i.e., eye blink, 50 Hz noise, etc), but it is not very simple to re-import files in net station.</div><div><br></div><div>Could anyone help me please?</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks </div><div><br></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="font-size: 12px; "><br>Giovanni Mento, PhD</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">Department od General Psychology</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">University of Padua</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">Via Venezia, 8.</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">35131, Padova (PD)</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">tel. +39 (0)49 827 6149</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">fax. +39 (0)49 827 6600</div></div></div></span> </div><br><div><div>Il giorno 07/mag/11, alle ore 03:19, Joseph Dien ha scritto:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">There have been some further developments on this front. EGI has been developing a new file format and been working with other software developers to get it supported. The problem with the NetStation native format is that it utilized some third-party software, which kept them from being able to have it be directly supported by others. This new MFF format has now been added to FieldTrip's fileio module by </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">Ingrid Nieuwenhuis (who I am cc'ing on this). FieldTrip's Fileio module is used by other open source Matlab packages like EEGlab, SPM, and my own EP Toolkit to support other file formats so it should take very little effort to make use of it. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet but it sounds like it is ready to use. I think it is necessary to have the new 4.5 release of NetStation to try it out though. Perhaps Ingrid can give us more information.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">Cheers!</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">Joe</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On May 4, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Tarik S Bel-Bahar wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div id=":2bv" class="ii gt"><div id=":2bw"><h1 style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;">Hi Stephanie,</h1><h1 style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;">Another user had a similar question recently. here is the response from me further below. Let me know if you got this email.<br> </h1><b>Please do let me know via email if you find a solution that works for you.<br>Please also let the eeglab list know. <br>Also don't forget solutions like ERPlab which allow you to forget about NS.</b><br><br><h1 style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"> <br></h1><h1 style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;">Greetings, <br></h1><h1 style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;">If you look over the most recent postings on this topic (see below), you will note Dr. Dominguez's (<span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><a href="mailto:l.garcia.d@gmail.com" target="_blank">l.garcia.d@gmail.com</a>) </span>note that he has developed a working path (using Joseph <span class="il">Dien</span>'s EP toolkit, search for it on Google) that works pretty well. Thus far, EEGLAB itself has not been extended for writing data that is readable back into Netstation. EGI <span class="il">support</span> ( "<span class="il">Support</span> Team" <<a href="mailto:supportteam@egi.com" target="_blank">supportteam@egi.com</a>> ) also has a matlab file that can help you write RAW files from matlab that are readable into Netstation. This file from EGI (as well as looking at the EP Toolkit code-which exports files readable by both EGI and EEGLAB), and a better understanding of the EGI file structure (by looking at their File Manual) may help you develop your own plugin. As there is a general interest in streamlining this process (see EEGLAB list archive and below), please let the EEGLAB list know if you make any further progress in this area, and perhaps we can add an EGI file exporter plugin to EEGLAB in the future. One related area that could also use some examination is maintaining the consistency of events codes and rich event sub-fields between Netstation and EGI, although this issue is generally resolved by saving out time stamped events from or into Netstation. If there are other users out there who have other working solutions in this general "Netstation to EEGLAB and back" area, please also let the list know, and perhaps we can collate all the current solutions onto a singular webpage for future reference. Respectfully. tb</h1> <div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><h1 style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;">[Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back</h1><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><b>Michiel Spape</b></span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"> </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><a href="mailto:eeglablist%40sccn.ucsd.edu?Subject=Re:%20%5BEeglablist%5D%20from%20Netstation%20to%20EEGLab%20and%20back&In-Reply-To=%3C09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D92DD78EA4FE%40EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk%3E" title="[Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back" target="_blank">Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk </a></span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><br> </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><i>Mon Mar 14 02:54:35 PDT 2011</i></span><ul style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><li>Previous message: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/003776.html" target="_blank">[Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back</a></li> <li>Next message: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/003791.html" target="_blank">[Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back</a></li><li><b>Messages sorted by:</b> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/date.html#3789" target="_blank">[ date ]</a> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/thread.html#3789" target="_blank">[ thread ]</a> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/subject.html#3789" target="_blank">[ subject ]</a> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/author.html#3789" target="_blank">[ author ]</a></li> </ul><hr style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><pre>Hi,<br>Sorry - are you talking about reading in Netstation 'session files' rather than exported "raw" Netstation files? In that case, I, and probably most people using Netstation and EEGLab would be most interested. Any chance this could be added to the standard import/export plugins of EEGLab?<br>
Best,<br>Michiel<br><br>Michiel Spapé<br>Research Fellow<br>Perception & Action group<br>University of Nottingham<br>School of Psychology<br><a href="http://www.cognitology.eu/" target="_blank">www.cognitology.eu</a><br>
<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/eeglablist" target="_blank">eeglablist-bounces at sccn.ucsd.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/eeglablist" target="_blank">eeglablist-bounces at sccn.ucsd.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Luis Garcia Dominguez<br>
Sent: 09 March 2011 13:49<br>To: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/eeglablist" target="_blank">eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>Subject: [Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back<br><br>In case some of you have problems exporting and importing segmented<br>
files between Netstation and eeglab (ERP Toolkit) I can help. I have<br>been able to export files from NS to eeglab (with help from EGI), do<br>some transformation to the data and, save the files back in NS format<br>keeping all the necessary events. I know some of you have been<br>
interested on this issue in the past.<br>Many thanks to Tarik Bel Bahar, Joseph <span class="il">Dien</span>, and Gaynor Foster (EGI)<br>for helping me.<br><br>-- <br>Luis García Domínguez </pre><div> _______________________________________________ Eeglablist page: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html" target="_blank">http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html</a> To unsubscribe, send an empty email to <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/eeglablist" target="_blank">eeglablist-unsubscribe at sccn.ucsd.edu</a> For digest mode, send an email with the subject "set digest mime" to <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/eeglablist" target="_blank">eeglablist-request at sccn.ucsd.edu</a> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. </div></span><hr style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><ul style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium;"><li>Previous message: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/003776.html" target="_blank">[Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back</a></li> <li>Next message: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/003791.html" target="_blank">[Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back</a></li><li><b>Messages sorted by:</b> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/date.html#3789" target="_blank">[ date ]</a> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/thread.html#3789" target="_blank">[ thread ]</a> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/subject.html#3789" target="_blank">[ subject ]</a> <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2011/author.html#3789" target="_blank">[ author ]</a></li> </ul> </div></div><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Stephanie C <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk">s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br> <br> I am looking for guidance on how to export the data and associated metaddata from an EEGLAB .set file format back to a EGI.raw file format?<br> <br> Any help would be greatly appreciated!<br> <br> Cheers,<br> Stephanie<br> <br> <br> Stephanie Connell<br> Ph.D Student<br> School of Psychology<br> University of Glasgow<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Eeglablist page: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html" target="_blank">http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html</a><br> To unsubscribe, send an empty email to <a href="mailto:eeglablist-unsubscribe@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-unsubscribe@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br> For digest mode, send an email with the subject "set digest mime" to <a href="mailto:eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br> </blockquote></div><br> _______________________________________________<br>Eeglablist page: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html">http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html</a><br>To unsubscribe, send an empty email to <a href="mailto:eeglablist-unsubscribe@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-unsubscribe@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>For digest mode, send an email with the subject "set digest mime" to <a href="mailto:eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu</a></blockquote></div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>Eeglablist page: <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html">http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/eeglabmail.html</a><br>To unsubscribe, send an empty email to <a href="mailto:eeglablist-unsubscribe@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-unsubscribe@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>For digest mode, send an email with the subject "set digest mime" to <a href="mailto:eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu</a></blockquote></div><br></body></html>