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    Hi Scott,<br>
    <br>
    We sometimes observe independent components that seem to represent
    the EMG activity just at the onset of a blink (probably initiating
    eyelid contraction), while blinks and lateral eye movements are
    captured by different components, and I think vertical eye movements
    could in principle be separately represented by just another
    component. A very interesting paper identifying several distinct
    generators contributing to eye-related artifact in EEG recordings
    is:<br>
    <br>
    Iwasaki et al., (2005). Effects of eyelid closure, blinks, and eye
    movements on the electroencephalogram. Clin Neurophysiol, 116,
    878-885.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    Stefan<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Am 6/28/11 9:39 PM, schrieb Steve Luck:
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      <div>Hi Scott.  You can get quite a bit of info about eye
        movements from EOG data.  Here are some good papers:</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Joyce et al., 2002, Psychophysiology. Tracking eye fixations
        with electroocular and electroencephalographic recordings</div>
      <div>
        <div style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 36px; text-indent: -36px; font:
          12px Geneva;">Lins, O. G., Picton, T. W., Berg, P., &
          Scherg, M. (1993). Ocular artifacts in EEG and event-related
          potentials I: Scalp topography. Brain Topography, 6, 51-63.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>You can also take a look at Chapter 4 in my book on ERP
          methods (An Introduction to the Event-Related Potential
          Technique, MIT Press).</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Steve</div>
        <div><br>
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        <blockquote type="cite"><br>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Scott Munro <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:phaddie@gmail.com">phaddie@gmail.com</a>><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">June 27, 2011 3:15:05 PM
              PDT<br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>[Eeglablist] Saccades
                from EOG data</b><br>
            </span></div>
          <br>
          <br>
          Hello,
          <div>  We have a set of EOG data extracted from a CTF MEG
            scanner.  We are hoping to isolate the horizontal direction
            of saccades and their timing.  I am very new to EEGlab and
            to EEG type data in general.  I am actually not sure even
            where to begin.  I have found some criteria in literature
            but not sure how to implement it.  I also suspect I may need
            to use ICA, but as of yet I have not been able to determine
            how to achieve our goal using ICA.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>  Any help or guidance in the right direction would be
            helpful.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>    Scott Munro</div>
          <div>    Department of Cognitive Science</div>
          <div>    York University</div>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Rohan Puri <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:r.puri@uq.edu.au">r.puri@uq.edu.au</a>><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">June 27, 2011 10:44:59 PM
              PDT<br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">"<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>"
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>[Eeglablist] Loading
                .mat file into EEGLAB</b><br>
            </span></div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">I have a .mat file named ‘data’ that
                I wish to load into EEGLAB using the import menu in the
                GUI. However, the data.mat file is a 1x1 structure array
                and the numerical values lie within it in a double
                precision array [64x1024] and consequently EEGLAB
                doesn’t read the data correctly.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">I’ve tried using the <b>double</b>
                function but that isn’t able to convert the file
                correctly. Apologies if this is basic and
                straightforward, but my knowledge and experience with
                MATLAB isn’t too advanced.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Any help and advice would be highly
                appreciated, thanks a lot,<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Rohan<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Tarik S Bel-Bahar <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:tarikbelbahar@gmail.com">tarikbelbahar@gmail.com</a>><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">June 27, 2011 7:35:22 PM
              PDT<br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Stephanie C <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk">s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk</a>><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>Re: [Eeglablist] .set
                to EGI.raw format</b><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:tarikbelbahar@gmail.com">tarikbelbahar@gmail.com</a><br>
            </span></div>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div>in the process of doing the same. EEGLAB and ERPLAB,
            however, both offer options that cover most single-subject
            averaging procedures.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>1. generate a netstation markup file from the .set file
            events</div>
          <div>this requires (I think)</div>
          <div>a. exporting eeglab events with at least time and event
            name [either with existing functions, or via matlab script]<br>
            b. formatting the exported file so it is readable by
            Netstation [by examining/practicing with Markup chapter in
            NS manuals]</div>
          <div>c. Making sure that the times in the exported file
            matches the times in the Netstation file [that the event
            time and relative location transfers correctly between the
            eeglab file and the destination netstation  file</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>any luck with your meta-data transfer issue stephanie ?</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <br>
          <br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM,
            Stephanie C <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk">s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              class="gmail_quote">Hi,<br>
              <br>
              I am looking for guidance on how to export the data and
              associated metaddata from an EEGLAB .set file format back
              to a EGI.raw file format?<br>
              <br>
              Any help would be greatly appreciated!<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              Stephanie<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Stephanie Connell<br>
              Ph.D Student<br>
              School of Psychology<br>
              University of Glasgow<br>
              <br>
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          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
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              127);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:
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          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">June 27, 2011 8:17:02 PM
              PDT<br>
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          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Giovanni Mento <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:giovanni.mento@unipd.it">giovanni.mento@unipd.it</a>><br>
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          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:
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                href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>,
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                href="mailto:inieuwenhuis@berkeley.edu">inieuwenhuis@berkeley.edu</a>,
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:Michiel.Spape@nottingham.ac.uk">Michiel.Spape@nottingham.ac.uk</a>,
              Stephanie C <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk">s.connell@psy.gla.ac.uk</a>><br>
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          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>Re: [Eeglablist] .set
                to EGI.raw format</b><br>
            </span></div>
          <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium; color: rgb(127, 127,
              127);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:
              'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:tarikbelbahar@gmail.com">tarikbelbahar@gmail.com</a><br>
            </span></div>
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          <div>Giovanni et al, </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>in the process of doing the same with EEGLAB and ERPLAB.
            Overall there is currenlty low interoperability of meta-data
            (event-data) across software packages, especially for
            beginning users. </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>Several quick thoughts and options below in this email,
            let me know if any of this helps, or if I was
            unclear/mistaken somewhere.</div>
          <div>Also,  when and if you find a solution path, please share
            with us and the list! Happy EEG!</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>1. considering doing the averaging and analyses in eeglab
            and/or erplab. </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>2.1. If one is an expert eeglab user and mid to high
            level matlab programmer, one can deal with all the issues
            described below.</div>
          <div>However, as a novice who is also working on transferring
            metadata across eeglab, NS, and EPtoolkit, these problems </div>
          <div>still seem important.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>2.2. An issue to keep in mind is that in order to get
            good ICA decompositions, you should do some cleaning
            (removing of </div>
          <div>continuous or epoched time periods) before feeding the
            data to ICA. Thus, these "missing" time periods need to be
            taken</div>
          <div>into account when considering some of the options below.
            Anyway, the crucial bit is that your arrays of events and
            times</div>
          <div>are correct and match up across the various
            imports/exports described below.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>2.3. Another issue to keep in mind ACROSS IMPORTS/EXPORTS
            ACROSS SOFTWARE PACKAGES </div>
          <div>(I want to put it in the foreground) is timing issues
            (for examples, event times may shift or be distorted
            slightly), </div>
          <div>data quality issues (for example, channel amplitude or
            channel locations may get mixed up slightly distorted), </div>
          <div>and event time matchup issues.</div>
          <div>I would suggest that, untill we are sure, let's assume
            that back and forthing between software packages is not very
            safe,</div>
          <div>
            <div>and may be affecting the data in undocumented ways. 
              This suggests it's better to stay native, or only migrate
              once across </div>
            <div>software packages (rather than two or more times,
              across two or more packages)</div>
          </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>3. AN EXISTING PATH TO HELP YOUR IMMEDIATE PROBLEM. If
            you look over the recent postings on this topic (see below),
            you will note Dr. Dominguez's (<span style="font-family:
              arial; font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:l.garcia.d@gmail.com" target="_blank">l.garcia.d@gmail.com</a>) </span>note
            that he has developed a working path (using Joseph <span>Dien</span>'s
            EP toolkit, search for it on Google) that works pretty well.
            He basically exported the events from Netstation, and then
            ran the netstation file through eeglab, then imported to
            EPToolkit, then exported to Netstation, and then read in the
            events via the Netstation markup tool. This should be one
            way to solve your issue. But read on...</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>4. An option for EXPORTING EEGLAB EVENTS AND IMPORTING
            INTO NETSTATION</div>
          <div>a. exporting eeglab events with at least time and event
            name [either with existing functions, or via matlab script]<br>
            b. formatting the exported file so it is readable by
            Netstation [by examining/practicing with Markup chapter in
            NS manuals]</div>
          <div>c. Making sure that the times in the exported file
            matches the times in the Netstation file [that the event
            time and relative location transfers correctly between the
            eeglab file and the destination netstation  file</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>5. An option for GETTING  EVENTS FROM NETSTATION TO
            EEGLAB</div>
          <div>These general points in Point #4 should also work in
            reverse, </div>
          <div>when one wants to export events from netstation, and get
            them loaded into eeglab.</div>
          <div>One could either import the event file (that was exported
            from NS)</div>
          <div>by using eeglab event updating functions, or by writing a
            little matlab script to do the same,</div>
          <div>essentially populate event fileds in eeglab with the
            event fields (TRSPs) from Netstation.</div>
          <div>One needs to be careful here (AGAIN) about being sure
            that timing is matched up, and that nothing is lost in
            translation.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>6. GETTING RICH EVENTS FROM NETSTATION TO EEGLAB</div>
          <div>Exporting events from NS to eeglab is especially helpful
            when dealing with rich "TRSPs" or "event-fields' that may
            have 5 to 100 subfields. One way to bypass (some of ) these
            problems is to put is to develop a series of epochs in
            Netstation</div>
          <div>via the epoch markup tool ? (when you are in a segmenting
            tool, there is the option to NOT segment but rather to
            create NEW events</div>
          <div>that represent the zero point of the segment in question.
            This allows you to create all the extra events you need</div>
          <div>that may better reflect your "rich" events in Netstation.
            From there you can directly export and import into eeglab,</div>
          <div>and you should see all these new events. See elesewhere
            in this email regarding options for marking up this file
            once you reimport it</div>
          <div>Netstation after having worked on it in eeglab.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>5. If anybody has Netstation events into EEGLAB events
            experience, or vice versa, please let us know. </div>
          <div>Eventually we can setup a webpage for the
            Netstation-EEGLAB gang.</div>
          <div>If any of the options described above can be bettered, we
            would be glad to hear of it !</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>6. Eventually, the new Netstation format will help things
            go more smoothly for inter-operability between software
            packages.</div>
          <div>Also, for now, remember that you have the option of using
            EGI's toolbox for generating</div>
          <div>Netstation files from within matlab, possibly skipping
            the EP step.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <br>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:05 AM,
            Giovanni Mento <span dir="ltr"><<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:giovanni.mento@unipd.it">giovanni.mento@unipd.it</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,
              204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
              class="gmail_quote">
              <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">
                <div>Dear all,</div>
                <div>I have read the messages about saving back files
                  .set (after for example ICA on eeglab) in formats
                  readable by Net Station.</div>
                <div>I have imported a .raw continous eeg recorded with
                  net station, segmented with EEGLAB epoching tool in
                  300 epochs (3 conditions), run ICA, removed
                  artifactual components and saved as ICA_pruned.set
                  file. So far so good.</div>
                <div>Then, I have opened the .set with EP toolkit and
                  simply saved the file as both .egis and binary file.
                  Net station is now able to open the epoched and pruned
                  .egis file but there is not the event-list (it only
                  distinguishes cell 1 and cell2), therefore I'm not
                  able to run additional analyses like averaging.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>How can I save in .raw format?</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Is there any way to export or save the .egis file
                  with the event list?Or simply to import an event-list
                  on a continuous or segmented .raw file in Net station?</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Maybe is better to segment before with net station
                  and to run ICA on already segmented files instead of
                  epoching with eeglab?</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I realized that ICA is a beautiful tool for
                  rejecting artifacts (i.e., eye blink, 50 Hz noise,
                  etc), but it is not very simple to re-import files in
                  net station.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Could anyone help me please?</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Many thanks </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div><span style="text-transform: none; text-indent:
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                    <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">
                      <div>
                        <div style="font-size: 12px;"><br>
                          Giovanni Mento, PhD</div>
                        <div style="font-size: 12px;">Department od
                          General Psychology</div>
                        <div style="font-size: 12px;">University of
                          Padua</div>
                        <div style="font-size: 12px;">Via Venezia, 8.</div>
                        <div style="font-size: 12px;">35131, Padova (PD)</div>
                        <div style="font-size: 12px;">tel. <a
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                            (0)49 827 6149</a></div>
                        <div style="font-size: 12px;">fax. <a
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                            (0)49 827 6600</a></div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </span></div>
                <br>
                <div>
                  <div>Il giorno 07/mag/11, alle ore 03:19, Joseph Dien
                    ha scritto:</div>
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5"><br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">
                          <div><span style="font-family: monospace;">There
                              have been some further developments on
                              this front.  EGI has been developing a new
                              file format and been working with other
                              software developers to get it supported.
                               The problem with the NetStation native
                              format is that it utilized some
                              third-party software, which kept them from
                              being able to have it be directly
                              supported by others.  This new MFF format
                              has now been added to FieldTrip's fileio
                              module by </span><span style="font-family:
                              monospace;">Ingrid Nieuwenhuis (who I am
                              cc'ing on this).  FieldTrip's Fileio
                              module is used by other open source Matlab
                              packages like EEGlab, SPM, and my own EP
                              Toolkit to support other file formats so
                              it should take very little effort to make
                              use of it.  </span><span
                              style="font-family: monospace;">I haven't
                              had a chance to try it out myself yet but
                              it sounds like it is ready to use.  I
                              think it is necessary to have the new 4.5
                              release of NetStation to try it out
                              though.  Perhaps Ingrid can give us more
                              information.</span></div>
                          <div><span style="font-family: monospace;"><br>
                            </span></div>
                          <div><span style="font-family: monospace;">Cheers!</span></div>
                          <div><span style="font-family: monospace;"><br>
                            </span></div>
                          <div><span style="font-family: monospace;">Joe</span></div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <div>
                            <div>On May 4, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Tarik S
                              Bel-Bahar wrote:</div>
                            <br>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <h1 style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;">Hi Stephanie,</h1>
                                  <h1 style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;">Another user had
                                    a similar question recently. here is
                                    the response from me further below.
                                    Let me know if you got this email.<br>
                                  </h1>
                                  <b>Please do let me know via email if
                                    you find a solution that works for
                                    you.<br>
                                    Please also let the eeglab list
                                    know. <br>
                                    Also don't forget solutions like
                                    ERPlab which allow you to forget
                                    about NS.</b><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <h1 style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;"><br>
                                  </h1>
                                  <h1 style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;">Greetings, <br>
                                  </h1>
                                  <h1 style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;">If you look over
                                    the most recent postings on this
                                    topic (see below), you will note Dr.
                                    Dominguez's (<span
                                      style="font-family: arial;
                                      font-size: small; font-weight:
                                      normal;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:l.garcia.d@gmail.com" target="_blank">l.garcia.d@gmail.com</a>) </span>note
                                    that he has developed a working path
                                    (using Joseph <span>Dien</span>'s
                                    EP toolkit, search for it on Google)
                                    that works pretty well. Thus far,
                                    EEGLAB itself has not been extended
                                    for writing data that is readable
                                    back into Netstation. EGI <span>support</span>
                                    ( "<span>Support</span> Team" <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:supportteam@egi.com"
                                      target="_blank">supportteam@egi.com</a>>
                                    ) also has a matlab file that can
                                    help you write RAW files from matlab
                                    that are readable into Netstation.
                                    This file from EGI (as well as
                                    looking at the EP Toolkit code-which
                                    exports files readable by both EGI
                                    and EEGLAB), and a better
                                    understanding of the EGI file
                                    structure (by looking at their File
                                    Manual) may help you develop your
                                    own plugin. As there is a general
                                    interest in streamlining this
                                    process (see EEGLAB list archive and
                                    below), please let the EEGLAB list
                                    know if you make any further
                                    progress in this area, and perhaps
                                    we can add an EGI file exporter
                                    plugin to EEGLAB in the future. One
                                    related area that could also use
                                    some examination is maintaining the
                                    consistency of events codes and rich
                                    event sub-fields between Netstation
                                    and EGI, although this issue is
                                    generally resolved by saving out
                                    time stamped events from or into
                                    Netstation. If there are other users
                                    out there who have other working
                                    solutions in this general
                                    "Netstation to EEGLAB and back"
                                    area, please also let the list know,
                                    and perhaps we can collate all the
                                    current solutions onto a singular
                                    webpage for future reference.
                                    Respectfully. tb</h1>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <h1 style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;">[Eeglablist]
                                    from Netstation to EEGLab and back</h1>
                                  <span style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;"><b>Michiel Spape</b></span><span
                                    style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;"> </span><span
                                    style="font-family: Times;
                                    font-size: medium;"><a
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                                      title="[Eeglablist] from
                                      Netstation to EEGLab and back"
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                                      target="_blank">Michiel.Spape at
                                      nottingham.ac.uk </a></span><span
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                                  </span><span style="font-family:
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                                    <pre>Hi,
Sorry - are you talking about reading in Netstation 'session files' rather than exported "raw" Netstation files? In that case, I, and probably most people using Netstation and EEGLab would be most interested. Any chance this could be added to the standard import/export plugins of EEGLab?


Best,
Michiel

Michiel Spapé
Research Fellow
Perception & Action group
University of Nottingham
School of Psychology
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cognitology.eu/" target="_blank">www.cognitology.eu</a>




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Subject: [Eeglablist] from Netstation to EEGLab and back

In case some of you have problems exporting and importing segmented


files between Netstation and eeglab (ERP Toolkit) I can help. I have
been able to export files from NS to eeglab (with help from EGI), do
some transformation to the data and, save the files back in NS format
keeping all the necessary events. I know some of you have been


interested on this issue in the past.
Many thanks to Tarik Bel Bahar, Joseph <span>Dien</span>, and Gaynor Foster (EGI)
for helping me.

-- 
Luis García Domínguez </pre>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 3,
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                                  class="gmail_quote">Hi,<br>
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                                  I am looking for guidance on how to
                                  export the data and associated
                                  metaddata from an EEGLAB .set file
                                  format back to a EGI.raw file format?<br>
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                                  Any help would be greatly appreciated!<br>
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                                  Cheers,<br>
                                  Stephanie<br>
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                                  Stephanie Connell<br>
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Neuropsychology Lab
Department of Psychology
University of Oldenburg
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