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<p>Would be nice to be informed in this thread about your experience with the demos and about your decision (...manufacturers should be objective, fair and hey, finally you decide which "package" is best for you).</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 11. November 2012 17:13<br>
<b>An:</b> Alex Svojanovsky<br>
<b>Cc:</b> eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: [Eeglablist] has anyone used an actiCHamp and an ActiveTwo?<br>
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<div>Thank you all for your responses. As many people had suggested, we are already in the process of having several of the systems demoed, or visiting sites with the systems, but had wanted to check if there were outstanding issues or general consensuses regarding
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<div>Jason M Cowell, Ph.D.</div>
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </span>Alex Svojanovsky <<a href="mailto:Alex.Svojanovsky@brainproducts.com" target="_blank">Alex.Svojanovsky@brainproducts.com</a>><br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </span>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:13:15 +0000<br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </span>Jason Cowell <<a href="mailto:cowell@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">cowell@uchicago.edu</a>><br>
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </span>AW: [Eeglablist] has anyone used an actiCHamp and an ActiveTwo?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Since this post is about our products and the initial question has not completely been answered I would like to add some missing information
as well as to clarify some possible misunderstandings.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">“</span><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">We are comparing both and are interested in the quality of these data, particularly in noise
issues. Are either of the systems more compatible with EEGLAB?”</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Both systems are compatible with EEGLAB.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">The Biosemi system uses a LABVIEW based software. If you got LABVIEW (or just buy it) you may adopt the software upon your needs.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">The Brain Products actichamp uses the Pycorder. It is an open source software written in python which may be adopted as well.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">In EEGLAB choose the correct format when importing the data.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">The internal noise (amplifier noise) is quite similar for both systems as well as pricing. Please compare here:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.biosemi.com/activetwo_full_specs.htm" target="_blank">http://www.biosemi.com/activetwo_full_specs.htm</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.brainvision.com/files/actiCHamp-PyCorder-Flyer_US.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.brainvision.com/files/actiCHamp-PyCorder-Flyer_US.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.brainproducts.com/productdetails.php?id=42" target="_blank">http://www.brainproducts.com/productdetails.php?id=42</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Well, misusing or misunderstanding a system technically will relate in wrong suggestions. So you may see noisy actichamp as well as noisy active
II data. It depends on the recording environment,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">electrode impedances and other aspects. At least the technical information you can find in the web (including pricing) is quite similar.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">It may be hard to find somebody with a longer experience in using both systems because the active II is around for some time and the actiChamp
is a quite new system.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Let me comment on some of the statements in this thread:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">ActiCAP is not the actichamp, it is an electrode cap with active electrodes which you may connect to many available amplifiers from different
manufacturers. The initial reason to develop it was the intention to offer a cap</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">which lets you kind of upgrade your existing amplifier (e.g. Neuroscan) to an active electrode system without the need to purchase a complete
new system (and then to modify your whole setup).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">A 128channel actiCAP can of course be used with just 64 channels, just connect 64 electrodes, that’s it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">The intended preparation is also slightly different from what you can read below. Biosemi electrodes have to be inserted after you lower impedances
by inserting gel. Brain Products active electrodes (actichamp or actiCAP)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">can be connected in the same way but you could also ask your volunteers beforehand (when you schedule your study) which head circumference
they got and prepare the whole cap before they arrive. Then you mount the cap</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">and insert the gel through the slits in the already inserted electrodes. You may compare yourself which method is faster or “the preferred
one” in your lab.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">The electrodes are bigger, correct. Our electrodes contain an additional circuit to measure impedances and a 3 color LED which indicates the
impedance level by the color. Advantage/disadvantage – your choice…</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Well, when selecting a system for the next couple of years, other aspects should also be taken into account like repair issues, service, support
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Ask users about broken electrodes, repair time, replacement, support, etc.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">You do not only select a system, you also choose to stay with a manufacturer for some years so choose the best one for you.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Source localization:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">When planning an experiment one should browse through publications beforehand to get a feeling about what is the common practice.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">If the decision is to use less than 64 channels (in this case) one should not be surprised that reviewers may need some good explanation for
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Maybe this (interesting) topic should be closed here and a new thread should be opened because it has nothing to do with the initial question.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Hope I could add some value to this topic.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span></p>
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<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Dimitrijevic, Andrew<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 9. November 2012 13:49<br>
<b>An:</b> Arnaud Delorme; Patrick Simen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu" target="_blank">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Eeglablist] has anyone used an actiCHamp and an ActiveTwo?</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Can't comment on 128 vs 64 ... but I have been using the Brain Products ActiChamp 64-channel system for about a year now. Things are
great compared to a passive electrode system. We've been using a mannequin head to the mount the electrodes and then place on the subject. This has been fine since, the subject can read and fill out the IRB forms while you're placing the electrodes on the
mannequin.<br>
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In terms of cost .. the Brain Products system was cheaper than BioSemi when I was searching around... I was choosing between BioSemi and BrainProducts.<br>
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I remember reading Pascual-Marqui's dipole error localization for 64 electrodes and above ... the error curve saturates near ~70 electrodes for a single "epileptic dipole" near the surface. This may not be case for other ERPs, and this may relate to Arnaud's
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Jason ... I have a friend who recently purchased a 256 BP actichamp system .... I can put you in contact with him</span></p>
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<pre><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">Andrew Dimitrijevic PhD</span></pre>
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<pre><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">Department of Otolaryngology, University of Cincinnati</span></pre>
<pre><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">3333 Burnet Ave. - S1.313</span></pre>
<pre><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">MLC 15008</span></pre>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Patrick Simen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu" target="_blank">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">I disagree with Baris and Patrick. 128-channels is better than 64 in many ways. I had done some testing on source localization (comparing dipole localization error from 256 (ground truth) down to 19 electrodes)
and below 72 channels, the error starts to increase (not published unfortunately).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">Only record with 64 channels if you do not have the choice. If you are planning to scan electrode positions, use 128. If you are planning to coregister with the subject's MRI, definitely use 128.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">In choosing between Biosemi and Brainproduct, Biosemi systems are less expensive than Brainproduct. However, with Biosemi, you cannot check electrode impedances. If you have the funds, you might want to get the Brainproduct
system. If your funds are limited, you might want to get Biosemi. And remember there is also Neuroscan, EGI, Ant and Guger Technologies who all offer decent products as well.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">However, I just wanted to say that I haven't found it at all difficult to reduce impedance with the BrainProducts system. It also didn't feel uncomfortable to me when I wore the cap several times and had the electrodes
inserted by students (nor when I inserted them myself -- it was easy enough that I could prep myself completely and quickly without assistance from anybody else -- I just needed a handheld mirror to see the occipital electrodes). </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">The only thing I really noticed was that reducing impedance was far (!!) easier and more comfortable than the usual process with passive-electrode caps in my previous lab. But that would probably be true with
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">I used full BioSemi Active2 system (cap+amplifier+LabView+response bix etc.) Electrodes are easy to insert, small, easy to reduce impedance, comfortable. You put the gel before the electrodes are placed.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">I used BProduct Active electrodes with Neuroscan amplifier+electrode box. Electrodes are very large, not easy to place the elctrodes on the cap, subjects feel discomfort. In order to reduce this effect you may
need to place the electordes on the manican before you put it on the subject which is weird. Since you will have 128 electrodes !! Also, you ned to insert the gel after you put the electrodes through a small opening, which makes impedance reduction relatively
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">Buy BioSemi. even 64 channel is fine for many applications and source localization. 128 too much and not very necessary (read some papers related to source localization, you will notice that after 60 channels
quality does not change much). Kinking proble is likely to occur due to the orientation of the cable placed initially in the beginning. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">Feel free to call me if you need further help. But, I would suggest (if you are going to pay a lot of money in this business) go and observe the systems in the labs live.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Jason M Cowell <<a href="mailto:cowell@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">cowell@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black" lang="EN-US">Our lab is presently in the process of acquiring several active 128- electrode systems. Does anyone have experience with both the Brain Products actiCHamp and the BioSemi ActiveTwo? We are comparing
both and are interested in the quality of these data, particularly in noise issues. Are either of the systems more compatible with EEGLAB? Any help or experience, particularly using the actiCHamp would be greatly appreciated.</span></p>
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