<html><head><base href="x-msg://3817/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In EEGLAB, you can use the cluster method only when using STUDY. <div>However, you can also use the statistics on single trials in a single dataset (if you create a STUDY with a single dataset).</div><div><br></div><div>In EEGLAB 12, press the statistics button in the channel or component STUDY plotting interface. Then you can select cluster statistics (click on Fieldtrip, then select monte-carlo statistics, then select cluster correction).</div><div>It works as the other STUDY statistics.</div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Arno<br><div><br><div><div>On 16 Jan 2013, at 02:18, Tom Campbell wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; "><div dir="ltr">Iman,<br>If you are just interested in the time-domain, I'd compute the ERPs one way or another, and for each ERP, I'd put the averaged data in EEG.data somehow, sort out EEG as if the ERP in EEG.data were a very short section of EEG, so you can plot it ok in EEGLAB, and then convert to fieldtrip with said function. Then do it in fieldtrip. Fieldtrip have a good online tutorial for doing this just in the time-domain. There are functions for converting between EEGLAB and fieldtrip. <br>Best regards,<br>Tom.<br><div> </div><br> <br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:irezazadeh@ucdavis.edu">irezazadeh@ucdavis.edu</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arno@ucsd.edu">arno@ucsd.edu</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:politzerahless@gmail.com">politzerahless@gmail.com</a><br>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:36:46 -0800<br>CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>Subject: Re: [Eeglablist] Cluster-based permutation tests<br><br><div class="ecxWordSection1"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; ">Hi Arno,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; ">Thanks for your reply!</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; ">Actually, I want to do cluster-based permutation on EEG data ( not ICA stuff<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/wiki/Chapter_04:_Processing_multiple_subjects_in_studies#Viewing_component_clusters" target="_blank">http://sccn.ucsd.edu/wiki/Chapter_04:_Processing_multiple_subjects_in_studies#Viewing_component_clusters</a></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; ">) and I could not find the help for that in EEGLAB tutorial .</span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; "> </span></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; ">Could you or any other EEGLABER please let me know how should I do the cluster-based permutation on time-domain data in EEGLAB ?</span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; "> </span></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; ">Best,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; ">Iman</span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; "></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; "> </span></p><div><div style="border-top-width: 1pt; border-right-width: medium; border-bottom-width: medium; border-left-width: medium; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-right-color: currentcolor; border-bottom-color: currentcolor; border-left-color: currentcolor; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Arnaud Delorme [mailto:arno@ucsd.edu]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:57 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stephen Politzer-Ahles<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Iman M.Rezazadeh;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Eeglablist] Cluster-based permutation tests</span></div></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Dear Iman,</div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> </p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">yes EEGLAB can do the cluster-based permutation test like Fieldtrip (in fact, it is calling some Fieldtrip function to do that). It is only available in EEGLAB 12 though.</div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Best,</div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> </p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Arno</div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> </p><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">On 20 Dec 2012, at 12:35, Stephen Politzer-Ahles wrote:</div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><br><br></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Hi Iman,<br><br>I'm not aware of any EEGLAB functions for doing that (although it seems there are some previous discussions on the list about bootstrap statistics, which are somewhat related). But since EEGLAB data can easily be imported directly into FieldTrip (see the EEGLAB function eeglab2fieldtrip() ) it should not be difficult to do that test in FieldTrip. (also, I'm not experienced with the Mass Univariate toolbox or ERPLAB, so my not mentioning them doesn't mean that they can't do this; I just don't know about them.)<br><br>Best,<br>Steve</p><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Iman M.Rezazadeh <<a href="mailto:irezazadeh@ucdavis.edu">irezazadeh@ucdavis.edu</a>> wrote:</div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Hi<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Dear EEGLABERS,</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Hope all is fine with you!</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Can EEGLAB do cluster based permutation test like fieldtrip <a href="http://fieldtrip.fcdonders.nl/tutorial/cluster_permutation_freq" target="_blank">http://fieldtrip.fcdonders.nl/tutorial/cluster_permutation_freq</a></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">or Mass Univariate ERP Toolbox<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/Mass_Univariate_ERP_Toolbox:_within-subject_t-tests#Cluster-based_permutation_tests" target="_blank">http://openwetware.org/wiki/Mass_Univariate_ERP_Toolbox:_within-subject_t-tests#Cluster-based_permutation_tests</a></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">I am looking for having the ttest topo-cluster plot and raster plot…</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Best,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Iman</div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; 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