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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Makoto and Arno,<br>
      To sum up: i'm using study analysis using <b>channels</b> (with
      GUI) to compare two conditions. After further testings, i have
      similar issues with EEGLAB version 12 and 11.05.5.4b : the stats
      maps (for condition comparaison in ERSP / ITC analysis) are
      changing each time i replot whatever stats option i use. Also,
      while ERP's topographics map are not changing, the significant
      channels (when comparing the two conditions) are changing each
      time i replot.<br>
      Strangely, those issues only happens with EEGLAB statistic's
      option, indeed when i choose Fieldtrip stat's option, i don't have
      this problem: the stats map remains the same after each
      replotting.<br>
      <br>
      cordially,<br>
      Nicolas<br>
      <br>
      Le 30/04/2013 17:00, Makoto Miyakoshi a écrit :<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear Nicolas and Arno,
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        <div>> some of these data, the stats are changing, whatever
          stats option i used (parametric, permutations, with or without
          holms correction and bonferoni correction). <br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          Permutation results may change because this approach is based
          on random permutation. However parametric test result should
          not. Could you check it again?</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">> ERP's topographic map's ( the
          significant channels are not the same each time i replot).<br>
          <br>
          Significant channels? You mean you are running STUDY analysis
          using channels? If that's the case I'm not experienced with
          it.</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra" style="">However, changing topographic
          maps is familiar with me. However, I want to know exactly what
          you are doing (using ICs or channels)</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra">
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Makoto<br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/26 Nicolas Rochet <span
              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:nicolas.rochet@univ-provence.fr"
                target="_blank">nicolas.rochet@univ-provence.fr</a>></span><br>
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                <div>Hi Makoto,<br>
                  Firstly, I recomputed ERP, ERSP and ITC after updating
                  to version 12. I realised that (when using the study's
                  GUI with version 12) each time i plot some of these
                  data, the stats are changing, whatever stats option i
                  used (parametric, permutations, with or without holms
                  correction and bonferoni correction). <br>
                  For example. when i try to compare ERSP maps in two
                  different condition: each time i replot it, the
                  corresponding stat map is changing while the ERSP map
                  is the same. I had the same problem with ITC maps or
                  for ERP's topographic map's ( the significant channels
                  are not the same each time i replot).<br>
                  <br>
                  Do you have any idea ? Nobody seems to have reported
                  similar issues ....<br>
                  <br>
                  Nicolas<br>
                  <br>
                  Le 18/04/2013 03:26, Makoto Miyakoshi a écrit :<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Dear Nicolas,
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                        <div>I'd be interested in learning how much the
                          difference was. Would you mind explaining it
                          to us?</div>
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                        <div>Makoto</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_extra"> <br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/15 Nicolas
                          Rochet <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                              href="mailto:nicolas.rochet@univ-provence.fr"
                              target="_blank">nicolas.rochet@univ-provence.fr</a>></span><br>
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                            Dear EEGLAB community,<br>
                            I was previously using eeglab version
                            10.2.2.4b. After updating EEGLAB<br>
                            to  version 12.0.2.0b (with SVN) the SAME
                            data (ie  ERP, ERSP and ITC<br>
                            grand average) processed with the study
                            protocol are different with the<br>
                            two version<br>
                            Does anybody encountered similar issues ?<br>
                            <br>
                            Thanks,<br>
                            Nicolas<br>
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                            --<br>
                            Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student<br>
                            Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR
                            7291<br>
                            <br>
                            Université de Provence / CNRS<br>
                            Pôle 3C - Case C<br>
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                            France<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Makoto Miyakoshi<br>
                          Swartz Center for Computational Neuroscience<br>
                          Institute for Neural Computation, University
                          of California San Diego<br>
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                    <pre cols="72">-- 
Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student
Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR 7291 

Université de Provence / CNRS
Pôle 3C - Case C
3 place Victor Hugo
13331 Marseille Cedex 03
France

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          <div dir="ltr">Makoto Miyakoshi<br>
            Swartz Center for Computational Neuroscience<br>
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Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student
Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR 7291 

Université de Provence / CNRS
Pôle 3C - Case C
3 place Victor Hugo
13331 Marseille Cedex 03
France

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