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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Makoto and Arno,<br>
To sum up: i'm using study analysis using <b>channels</b> (with
GUI) to compare two conditions. After further testings, i have
similar issues with EEGLAB version 12 and 11.05.5.4b : the stats
maps (for condition comparaison in ERSP / ITC analysis) are
changing each time i replot whatever stats option i use. Also,
while ERP's topographics map are not changing, the significant
channels (when comparing the two conditions) are changing each
time i replot.<br>
Strangely, those issues only happens with EEGLAB statistic's
option, indeed when i choose Fieldtrip stat's option, i don't have
this problem: the stats map remains the same after each
replotting.<br>
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cordially,<br>
Nicolas<br>
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Le 30/04/2013 17:00, Makoto Miyakoshi a écrit :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Nicolas and Arno,
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<div>> some of these data, the stats are changing, whatever
stats option i used (parametric, permutations, with or without
holms correction and bonferoni correction). <br>
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Permutation results may change because this approach is based
on random permutation. However parametric test result should
not. Could you check it again?</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">> ERP's topographic map's ( the
significant channels are not the same each time i replot).<br>
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Significant channels? You mean you are running STUDY analysis
using channels? If that's the case I'm not experienced with
it.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra" style="">However, changing topographic
maps is familiar with me. However, I want to know exactly what
you are doing (using ICs or channels)</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Makoto<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/26 Nicolas Rochet <span
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<div>Hi Makoto,<br>
Firstly, I recomputed ERP, ERSP and ITC after updating
to version 12. I realised that (when using the study's
GUI with version 12) each time i plot some of these
data, the stats are changing, whatever stats option i
used (parametric, permutations, with or without holms
correction and bonferoni correction). <br>
For example. when i try to compare ERSP maps in two
different condition: each time i replot it, the
corresponding stat map is changing while the ERSP map
is the same. I had the same problem with ITC maps or
for ERP's topographic map's ( the significant channels
are not the same each time i replot).<br>
<br>
Do you have any idea ? Nobody seems to have reported
similar issues ....<br>
<br>
Nicolas<br>
<br>
Le 18/04/2013 03:26, Makoto Miyakoshi a écrit :<br>
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<div>I'd be interested in learning how much the
difference was. Would you mind explaining it
to us?</div>
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<div>Makoto</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/15 Nicolas
Rochet <span dir="ltr"><<a
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Dear EEGLAB community,<br>
I was previously using eeglab version
10.2.2.4b. After updating EEGLAB<br>
to version 12.0.2.0b (with SVN) the SAME
data (ie ERP, ERSP and ITC<br>
grand average) processed with the study
protocol are different with the<br>
two version<br>
Does anybody encountered similar issues ?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Nicolas<br>
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--<br>
Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student<br>
Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR
7291<br>
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Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student
Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR 7291
Université de Provence / CNRS
Pôle 3C - Case C
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France
tel : <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28%2B33%29%2004%2013%2055%2009%2000" value="+33413550900" target="_blank">(+33) 04 13 55 09 00</a></pre>
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Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student
Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR 7291
Université de Provence / CNRS
Pôle 3C - Case C
3 place Victor Hugo
13331 Marseille Cedex 03
France
tel : (+33) 04 13 55 09 00</pre>
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