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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks, Steve, for your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes, that is what I thought re the ICA amplitude per trial plot…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Re the head maps, I thought there may be another analysis approach; e.g. instead of rejecting components based on maps doing it somehow differently…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Luisa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Luisa Roeder</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <b>| PhD researcher | Movement Neuroscience Program</b></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Institute of Health and Biomedical Innovation & School of Exercise and Nutrition Science</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> politzerahless@gmail.com [mailto:politzerahless@gmail.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Politzer-Ahles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 15 May 2014 1:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Luisa Roeder<br>
<b>Cc:</b> eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eeglablist] removing ICA components<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for the top right panel of that plot, what that plots is the ICA's amplitude per trial, and the ERP. So I imagine you can't get those when you're not using epoched data (although I haven't tried myself). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure about the issue with the head maps; my hunch is that it might not be possible to get good topoplots without more channels, but hopefully someone else more familiar with that issue can give you some more input.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Steve<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Stephen Politzer-Ahles<br>
New York University, Abu Dhabi<br>
Neuroscience of Language Lab<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Luisa Roeder <<a href="mailto:l.roeder@qut.edu.au" target="_blank">l.roeder@qut.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have been following the EEGLAB discussion list for a few weeks now and have been working through most of the tutorials and wiki pages but I am still a newbie to MATLAB, EEGLAB
and analysing EEG signals in general. Hence, I have basic, newbie questions which I hope you can help me with.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I am trying to follow the analysis steps that are outlined in this paper: <span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">
Petersen, T.H., M. Willerslev-Olsen, B.A. Conway, and J.B. Nielsen, <i>The motor cortex drives the muscles during walking in human subjects.</i> The Journal of physiology, 2012.
<b>590</b>(Pt 10): p. 2443-52.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=1.%09Petersen%2C+T.H.%2C+M.+Willerslev-Olsen%2C+B.A.+Conway%2C+and+J.B.+Nielsen%2C+The+motor+cortex+drives+the+muscles+during+walking+in+human+subjects.+The+Journal+of+physiology%2C+2012.+590%28Pt+10%29%3A+p.+2443-52" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=1.%09Petersen%2C+T.H.%2C+M.+Willerslev-Olsen%2C+B.A.+Conway%2C+and+J.B.+Nielsen%2C+The+motor+cortex+drives+the+muscles+during+walking+in+human+subjects.+The+Journal+of+physiology%2C+2012.+590%28Pt+10%29%3A+p.+2443-52</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">At the moment I am looking at a continuous dataset that contains 6 EEG and 6 EMG channels and that was recorded during a sustained muscle contraction of the leg. Eventually I also
want to look at gait data but I am not there yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As outlined in the paper, I am trying to perform ICA (runica) on the EEG channels. After I ran the ICA, I want to remove unwanted components (in the gui) via Tools->reject data
using ICA-> reject components by map. However, since I only recorded 6 channels (C3, Cz, C4, F3, Fz, F4) the head maps I receive only cover the region between the 6 electrodes but not the whole head. Also, when clicking on one component the top right panel
that is supposed to show the activity of the component is empty<span style="color:#1F497D">.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here is a link to 2 images:
<span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t5b8kmb9b9ce93e/AAC5VyeSEQbob0PTSiSZ61Ita" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t5b8kmb9b9ce93e/AAC5VyeSEQbob0PTSiSZ61Ita</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This does not provide sufficient information to be able to judge whether to keep or to discard a component.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">What can I do to fix the problem? Is there another/better/more appropriate way to remove artefacts from my data than this approach? Or is the only way recording more channels (32+?)
so that I can plot sufficient head maps?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Currently I use MATLAB R2012a and EEGLAB v10.2.5.8b.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks so much in advance for your help!!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Luisa<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Luisa Roeder</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> <b>| PhD researcher | Movement Neuroscience Program</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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