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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Caroline<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would suggest that you do some analysis of your data: You could do FFT on 1s or 2s data. Calculate mean and standard deviation through the epochs. Std can
tell you something about the dynamics and/or noise -> small std means little noise and lttle variability as high std means noise and/or large variability. May be you find you will work on the averages shorter epochs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Pål<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Pål G. Larsson M.D., PhD.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Head of Clinical Neurophysiology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Department of Neurosurgery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Division of Surgery and Clinical Neuroscience<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oslo University Hospital<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Po.box 4950 Nydalen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tel: (+47) 23074407<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:pall@ous-hf.no"><span style="color:blue">pall@ous-hf.no</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">not sensitive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Robertson, Caroline [mailto:carobertson@csu.edu.au]
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<b>Sendt:</b> 27. mai 2014 07:18<br>
<b>Til:</b> Pål Gunnar Larsson; 'Samaneh Valipour'; mmiyakoshi<br>
<b>Kopi:</b> eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu<br>
<b>Emne:</b> RE: [Eeglablist] Number of samples<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am currently examining the EEG response to certain exercise bouts. We only have a 256Hz system and are currently using 30sec data sample window.
As you discuss below this may not improve the information because of the variability of the signal... on top of which exercise clearly adds to the level of noise... I have only read in one paper that the minimal suggested sample window during exercise is 20secs
of data but does anyone have any other suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Many thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Caroline<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu">mailto:eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pål Gunnar Larsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 22 May 2014 4:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Samaneh Valipour'; mmiyakoshi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eeglablist] Number of samples<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Remember that EEG is a very dynamic signal. Hence, longer samples is not expected to give better information as the signal changes within the sample window.
However, increasing the sampling rate, increases the information. According to Nyquist you will be able to reconstruct a signal if you sample faster than the double of the highest frequency in the signal. However, that is when the signal is stable (EEG is
not) and the sample is infinite long. Practically you will often end up sampling 5-10 time the highest frequency in biological signals.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Pål G. Larsson M.D., PhD.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Head of Clinical Neurophysiology</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Department of Neurosurgery</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Division of Surgery and Clinical Neuroscience</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oslo University Hospital</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Po.box 4950 Nydalen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">0424 Oslo</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Norway</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tel: (+47) 23074407</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mobile: (+47) 93429791</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">E-mail:
<a href="mailto:pall@ous-hf.no">pall@ous-hf.no</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">not sensitive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dr. philos. Pål G. Larsson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seksjonsleder Klinisk nevrofysiologi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nevrokirurgisk avdeling</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oslo Universitetssykehus</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Postboks 4950 Nydalen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">0424 Oslo
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tlf.: 23074407</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mobil: 93429791</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">E-mail:
<a href="mailto:pal.gunnar.larsson@ous-hf.no">pall@ous-hf.no</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Denne meldingen innholder ikke sensitiv informasjon som bryter med OUS sine regler for taushetsplikt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu">mailto:eeglablist-bounces@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>]
<b>På vegne av</b> Samaneh Valipour<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 21. mai 2014 06:58<br>
<b>Til:</b> mmiyakoshi<br>
<b>Kopi:</b> <a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a><br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Eeglablist] Number of samples</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks a lot Dear Makoto.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Makoto Miyakoshi <<a href="mailto:mmiyakoshi@ucsd.edu" target="_blank">mmiyakoshi@ucsd.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Samples you mean sampling points? Yes of course. The more sampling points you have, the better (i.e. smoother and more reliable) the results are.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Makoto<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2014-05-19 21:31 GMT-07:00 Samaneh Valipour <<a href="mailto:samanehvalipour61@gmail.com" target="_blank">samanehvalipour61@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">With very kind regards</span><span style="color:blue">,</span></b><span style="color:#888888"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">With very kind regards</span><span style="color:blue">,</span></b><br>
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