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<div><span></span>Dear EEGLABLIST</div><div><br></div><div>Recently I am in trouble in using DIPFIT. I found a <a href="http://sccn.ucsd.edu/pipermail/eeglablist/2015/009530.html">same problem</a> in the archive of eeglablist but I couldn't find any solution. </div><div><br></div><div>The problem is "<b>atatype_raw error</b>", and the error information is "<b>inconsistent number of channels in trial 1</b>". </div><div><br></div><div>My dataset was average-referenced, and PCA to (EEG.nbchan-1) when I run ICA decomposition. I thought that maybe the discrepancy between the number of channels and components caused that (I actually know it must reduce the rank of the data when average-reference is used). Therefore I experimented not to reduce the rank of data, but directly run ICA. With the data of same numbers of channels and ICs, there is not aforementioned error any more. However, It resulted in bad dipole fitting (e.g. all dipoles are outside or converging to a same location). I do not know if my analysis pipeline is correct. My pipeline is below:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 1. import data (brain vision)</span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 2. 1-Hz high-pass filtering (considering good ICA results)</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 3. clean line noise (CleanLine)</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 4. downsample to 256-Hz</span></span></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 5. load channel location and append online reference channel (FCz)</span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;"> 5. average reference and </span>add online reference channel back to data at the same time</span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 6. remove channels (VEO, HEOR)</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 7. run clean_rawdata (only to identify bad channels)</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 8. average re-reference</span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 9. epoch and baseline-correction with the mean of whole epoch data</span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 10. reject bad epoch (semi-automatic)</span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 11. run ICA (with 'pca', EEG.nbchan-1)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> 12. DIPFIT ---> error</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgba(0,="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> PS: eeglab version is <b>13.2.2b</b>; matlab version is </span><span style="font-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;"><b>7.13.0.564 (R2011b)</b></span></div><div><span style="font-family: "" microsoft="" yahei="" ui'";="" font-size:="" 14px;="" color:="" rgb(0,="" 0,="" 0);="" background-color:="" rgb(255,="" 255,="" 255);="" font-weight:="" normal;="" font-style:="" normal;text-decoration:="" none;'=""> PPS: I will try <b>Prep Pipeline</b> to pre-processe data in the future, so with its <b>robust average</b>, it could also run into trouble for the unbalancing number of channels and ICs.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;">If any step of my pipeline is inappropriate and causes error I came across, please tell me. I appreciate your helps!</span></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Li Xiang</div><div>Southwest University, China</div>
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