<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">It is common to be unaware of this problem. To quote EGI: "These delay values have not been effectively communicated to EGI
customers . . ."</span><div><br></div><div><div>That aside, here are the advisory notices from EGI:</div><div><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/60ecjesnp62lxjj/EGI%20advisory%20notice%20and%20update.docx?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/60ecjesnp62lxjj/EGI%20advisory%20notice%20and%20update.docx?dl=0</a><br></div><div>Note that there are two notices - an initial warning followed by an update.</div></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;line-height:14.2667px"><br></span></font><div>The filter causing the issue is the hardware filter (before analog to digital conversion) within the amplifier. Filters applied offline are unaffected. <br></div><div><br></div><div>For NetStation users, EGI released a stand alone "<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:9.5pt;line-height:107%">Anti Alias Filter Alignment" utility to adjust files offline. </span>NetStation version 5.1.2 and later include this utility as part of the installation and also allow for online correction. Be aware that when using the tool offline, "<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:9.5pt">data must be
adjusted in a state prior to segmentation</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:9.5pt">, therefore you will have to reprocess
the data </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px">(personal communication w/EGI). </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:9.5pt">" Since this correction must occur before segmentation anyway, we export our </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px">continuous</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:9.5pt">data to .raw files then adjust the data and perform all pre-processing steps in eeglab.</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if anything above is unclear, </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-11 21:11 GMT-04:00 chao wang <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hnchaowang@gmail.com" target="_blank">hnchaowang@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Isaiah,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for sharing this information. I am an EGI user, but I am not aware of such an issue. So, would you please tell the meaning of "<span style="font-size:13px">Advisory Notice: Anti-Alias Filter Effects on EEG Timing</span>"? Does the "Anti-Alias Filter" mean the filter in the recording phase, i.e. the hardware filter within the amplifiers? Or the FIR filter in the offline pre-processing phase? Besides, how can this effect be corrected with NetStation? I rely more on NetStation for pre-processing.</div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate your help, thank you!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Chao</div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:00 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu" target="_blank">eeglablist-request@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>></span> wrote:<span class=""><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Isaiah Innis <<a href="mailto:isainnis@umail.iu.edu" target="_blank">isainnis@umail.iu.edu</a>><br>To: EEGLAB List <<a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu" target="_blank">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:48:27 -0400<br>Subject: [Eeglablist] Correct for EGI latency error functions<br><div dir="ltr">Hello eeglab list:<div><br></div><div>Those of us who use EGI hydro-cel systems received<span style="font-size:13px"> "Advisory Notice: Anti-Alias Filter Effects on EEG Timing" warning that there is a fixed latency delay present for any event codes sent to the EEG during recording. The EEG is delayed with respect to the events, and needs to be corrected by either shifting the EEG forward or the events back. </span>While it is possible to correct this within NetStation, since our lab analyzes data exclusively using eeglab I wrote a series of functions to correct the delay within eeglab. It is my hope that others may find this beneficial. However, I am a matlab novice and would like to see if anyone on the list has any comments or suggestions. </div><div><br></div><div>You can download a .zip archive with the functions here: <<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2udz5qrdb79b2b8/AAAS6Bws_O65gJnpnATS1azza?dl=0" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2udz5qrdb79b2b8/AAAS6Bws_O65gJnpnATS1azza?dl=0</a>>.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have any questions or criticisms upon reviewing the functions, please contact me at: <a href="mailto:isainnis@indiana.edu" target="_blank">isainnis@indiana.edu</a></div><div>If there is interest, I will make this a plugin for ease of use. <br clear="all"><div><br></div><div>Thank you, </div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr">Isaiah Innis<br>Indiana University '13<br>EEG Technician, IUB IRF<br> <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Makoto Miyakoshi <<a href="mailto:mmiyakoshi@ucsd.edu" target="_blank">mmiyakoshi@ucsd.edu</a>><br>To: Isaiah Innis <<a href="mailto:isainnis@indiana.edu" target="_blank">isainnis@indiana.edu</a>><br>Cc: EEGLAB List <<a href="mailto:eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu" target="_blank">eeglablist@sccn.ucsd.edu</a>><br>Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:52:48 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Eeglablist] Correct for EGI latency error functions<br><div dir="ltr">Dear Isaiah,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for sharing this info. I heard of it from Elise, one of visitors here. EGI users, please pay attention!</div><div><br></div><div>Makoto</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Isaiah Innis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:isainnis@umail.iu.edu" target="_blank">isainnis@umail.iu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello eeglab list:<div><br></div><div>Those of us who use EGI hydro-cel systems received<span style="font-size:13px"> "Advisory Notice: Anti-Alias Filter Effects on EEG Timing" warning that there is a fixed latency delay present for any event codes sent to the EEG during recording. The EEG is delayed with respect to the events, and needs to be corrected by either shifting the EEG forward or the events back. </span>While it is possible to correct this within NetStation, since our lab analyzes data exclusively using eeglab I wrote a series of functions to correct the delay within eeglab. It is my hope that others may find this beneficial. However, I am a matlab novice and would like to see if anyone on the list has any comments or suggestions. </div><div><br></div><div>You can download a .zip archive with the functions here: <<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2udz5qrdb79b2b8/AAAS6Bws_O65gJnpnATS1azza?dl=0" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2udz5qrdb79b2b8/AAAS6Bws_O65gJnpnATS1azza?dl=0</a>>.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have any questions or criticisms upon reviewing the functions, please contact me at: <a href="mailto:isainnis@indiana.edu" target="_blank">isainnis@indiana.edu</a></div><div>If there is interest, I will make this a plugin for ease of use. <br clear="all"><div><br></div><div>Thank you, </div><span><font color="#888888">-- <br><div><div dir="ltr">Isaiah Innis<br>Indiana University '13<br>EEG Technician, IUB IRF<br><br></div></div>
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