<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">Hello Jaleh,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">Please go/google with the published recommendations on the eeglab tutorial, and based on Makoto's past recommendations on the eeglablist.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">Basically, the more channels and higher sampling rate you have, the longer your time periods should be. It is also important to keep in mind that one wants to feed enough data to ICA so that it can adequately separate sources.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">Basically, for a great/valid ICA decomposition, it is better to have more (rather than less) data (e.g., ~30 minutes or more) for each condition, especially when you have high-density eeg with 64 or more channels, and when you have high sampling rate.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">In your case, you may want to reduce the total number of channels, or downsample the data, in order to better meet ICA's requirements.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">You may also want to use a PCA reduction. Overall, such steps should help get valid ICA decompositions from data that are relatively short (in terms of time).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">Please note that researcher preferences and biases vary greatly in the EEG field, do not expect there to be agreement on a range of issues. It is a good path to follow guidelines from top researchers, and methods from articles in top journals.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">Note that some researchers use (and publish successfully on) 2 or 5 minute periods for ICA, and consider that enough. Such short periods often can result in relatively clear artifact ICs. You can test this for yourself. You can also test the effects of having longer versus shorter periods. However, the validity of ICA results is likely affected by using using short periods, and the decomposition may not show many valid neural ICs.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)">Your best best is to review past studies using ICA and note how many channels and how many time points entered into the ICA, and what the results were. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,153)"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:34 AM, Jaleh Mohammad alipoor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sugmad973@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sugmad973@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="m_7839678772847659556yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499836703939_4333">Hello,</div><div id="m_7839678772847659556yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499836703939_4333" dir="ltr">l want to know what is the suitable length of eegdata for ICA to work properly. l know that there is a formula as k*n^2 but adding to the confusion is the fact that different numbers has mentioned for 'k' !! like 30, 25 and even 2!</div><div id="m_7839678772847659556yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499836703939_4333" dir="ltr">for example l want to know if l run ICA for a data of 13000 data point while my channel numbers are 32, will ICA work correctly or not?</div><div></div><div id="m_7839678772847659556yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499836703939_4334"> </div><div class="m_7839678772847659556signature" id="m_7839678772847659556yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499836703939_4335">Best regards,<div id="m_7839678772847659556yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499836703939_4375">Zhaleh </div><div id="m_7839678772847659556yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499836703939_6042"><br></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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