[Eeglablist] Latency (time) ranges and Best Channels for each ERP component

Makoto Miyakoshi mmiyakoshi at ucsd.edu
Fri Aug 20 14:59:25 PDT 2021


Dear Vic and John,

> "Electric Fields of the Brain" by Nunez and Srinivasan

I haven't seen it in 400/611 pages. EFB is a book to learn Schumann
resonance of the head. If you want to ask ERP questions,

> "An Introduction to the Event-Related Potential Technique" by Steven Luck

This one is more promising.

Makoto

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:02 AM Iversen, John via eeglablist <
eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu> wrote:

> Hi Vic,
>
> I would think that any classic EEG textbook would have something on this,
> and there are surely similar resources on-line (which someone else on the
> list may know about?):
>
> "Electric Fields of the Brain" by Nunez and Srinivasan
> "An Introduction to the Event-Related Potential Technique" by Steven Luck
>
> or perhaps the best for your needs: "The Oxford Handbook of Event-Related
> Potential Components" ("The first and only comprehensive resource devoted
> entirely to ERP components").
>
>
> In the way of some background commentary: Your question is a mainstay of
> traditional channel-based ERP analysis which has indeed contributed many
> insights to psychology and you're right that there are patterns there;  in
> general, EEGLAB does encourage people to think about the more biologically
> interpretable source-space as Pål mentioned. I think his point was not
> about uncertainty in defining the channels and windows, for which there are
> indeed conventions, but the lack of interpretability of such features in
> terms of brain mechanisms. It all depends on your ultimate aims and
> interests.
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
> On Aug 9, 2021, at 10:01 AM, vic roc via eeglablist <
> eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu<mailto:eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu>> wrote:
>
> Dear Pal
>
> Thanks for your input. I know they have some element of uncertainty to
> them. But the likelihood of their appearance is much higher during some
> time window and on some spatial positions.
>
> I need these windows and positions.
>
> Kind regards
> Vic
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 11:48 AM Pål Gunnar Larsson <pall at ous-hf.no<mailto:
> pall at ous-hf.no>> wrote:
>
> The components are integrated parts of subcomponents. Hence, they don't
> start at a given time and they don't have distinct location. This is due to
> the large parallelization in the nervous system.
> If you want to explore structures in the brain, you can set up a source
> space recording to help with local activities.
>
> Pål G. Larsson M.D., PhD.
> Department of Neurosurgery
> Division of Surgery and Clinical Neuroscience
>
> Oslo University Hospital
> Po.box 4950 Nydalen
> 0424 Oslo
> Norway
> Tel:  (+47) 23074407
> Mobile: (+47) 93429791
> E-mail: pall at ous-hf.no<mailto:pall at ous-hf.no>
> not sensitive
> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: eeglablist [mailto:eeglablist-bounces at sccn.ucsd.edu] På vegne av vic
> roc via eeglablist
> Sendt: 8. august 2021 22:35
> Til: eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu
> Emne: [Eeglablist] Latency (time) ranges and Best Channels for each ERP
> component
>
> Dear all
>
> In order to identify each of the ERP components on the ERPs, I need to know
> the time ranges for each of the components. For example, for P300, we
> expect its peak to happen somewhere (actually sometime) between 250 ms and
> 500 ms from the onset of the stimulus. I need these 'time ranges' for a
> rather large number of different ERP components.
>
> Also each ERP component tends to peak in certain EEG channels more than the
> others.
>
> Do you know *a reference (some articles or a books)* that explains and
> lists the latency ranges for all ERP components? Otherwise, if you know the
> information regarding a few ERP components, please let me know so I can ask
> you about my ERP components of interest.
>
> Additionaly, do you know references that explain and list each EEG channel
> that is the best electrode (spatial position) in the 10-20 system for
> detection of different ERP components?
>
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vic
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