[Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

Fri Nov 7 01:58:48 PST 2025

Dear Makoto,

I would also be interested in collaborating - this is always a topic of discussion whenever using spectral analyses in my lab. I can set up a shared spreadsheet for people to sign-up (think self sign-ups would be the easiest way to go at this point).

Let me know if this helps (perhaps via direct e-mail?) and I will set up.

Thank you and best wishes,

Fernando Ferreira-Santos
Professor Associado | Associate Professor
Coordenador Lab. Neuropsicofisiologia | Coordinator Lab. Neuropsychophysiology
Diretor do Mestrado em Psicologia | Director of the Master’s Degree in Psychology

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-----Original Message-----
From: Street, James <james.street.12 at ucl.ac.uk> 
Sent: 06 November 2025 11:32
To: EEGLAB List <eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu>; Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

Hi Makoto,

A bit late to the party, but I'm also very interested in participating in this open project too.
I'm a postdoc in epilepsy and work predominantly in in vivo/ex vivo ephys in rodents, so if I can be of help I am happy to be involved!

Do keep us updated with the next steps and plan.

Thanks,

Kind regards,

James
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James Street, MBBS PhD
Postdoctoral Research Fellow (Lignani Lab) Department of Clinical and Experimental Epilepsy Institute of Neurology University College London

UPI JSSTR43
UC 5978

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Subject: [Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

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Hello EEGLAB mailing list,

Some of you may recall the long, dense, and ever-continuing discussion we witnessed this summer about EEG’s 1/f power distribution. I’m sure many of you wondered, “Can they please stop quoting papers while speaking?” That conversation seemed to have ended on the list. But it has continued off-list! And now, it has led to the idea of writing a collaborative paper.

We’d like to invite anyone interested to join this open project. You don’t need to be a specialist; genuine curiosity and a willingness to contribute are what matter most.

If you’d like to participate, please reply to this mailing list so that everyone can stay in the loop.

For those curious, I’ve also included below a brief history of EEGLAB mailing list–initiated publications.

Makoto

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There have been several papers initiated through collaborations among the EEGLAB mailing list community and myself. Perhaps the most memorable one was the *ICA's bug *paper:

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We can find the origin of this project in the following post.

*On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at ucsd.edu <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7Cjames.street.12*40ucl.ac.uk*7Cdb5f521d3eeb46c2cf2608de1c1145f0*7C1faf88fea9984c5b93c9210a11d9a5c2*7C0*7C0*7C638979057703751739*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=8VqqTszKrKQ9O47PqbCVTUBlhFQF1cGn8*2BO2zQ0NCUk*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!Mih3wA!HADaFweg4T6kRBNm5ot-jGnrvvw1E7DQRzXiDdbClaYB0yfhVk_-XE158X6CF-i9Bc6xkZ-kAKneMmiLOwMd45M9AlG0ZqVb2kU$  >> **Dear subscribers, **Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data rank issue **with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a simulation **experiment **with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small project on this issue for **publication. I would appreciate it if you can give me any of the **following **as an input.*

I made it festive: I invited a high-school intern to join as a co-author (his coding skill was GOOD); I also invited a person whose name had been mysteriously engraved for over a decade in an annotation of EEGLAB’s code in question; I cited four authorities via unfashionable “private communication”; and yes, I gave the paper a catchy title that the first author did not like… etc., etc.

>* > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at 
>ucsd.edu 
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*>* wrote:
*>* >
*>* >> Dear subscribers,
*>* >>
*>* >> Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data rank issue
*>* >> with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a simulation
*>* experiment
*>* >> with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small project on this issue for
*>* >> publication. I would appreciate it if you can give me any of the
*>* following
*>* >> as an input.
*>* >>
*>* >>   - Questions (what is puzzling for you? No need to be shy for asking
*>* >>   'dumb questions')
*>* >>   - Requests (if you want to know particularly X and/or Y on this issue,
*>* >>   I may be able to give you the answer based on the simulation test)
*>* >>   - Suggestions (about methods, data type, applications, etc)
*>* >>   - Reports (when ICA failed, what did you see?)
*>* >>
*>* >> If you are interested in working with me to make a contribution to this
*>* >> small project, please reply or contact me mmiyakoshi at ucsd.edu. <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7Cjames.street.12*40ucl.ac.uk*7Cdb5f521d3eeb46c2cf2608de1c1145f0*7C1faf88fea9984c5b93c9210a11d9a5c2*7C0*7C0*7C638979057703785050*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=kkZTRe5OkQvf3weq5OxNEFs7S2*2FGCcEqL3sewVxwjeY*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!Mih3wA!HADaFweg4T6kRBNm5ot-jGnrvvw1E7DQRzXiDdbClaYB0yfhVk_-XE158X6CF-i9Bc6xkZ-kAKneMmiLOwMd45M9AlG0ZedPv48$  > If your
*>* >> contribution is substantial, I'll offer you to be a coauthor. Probably
*>* we
*>* >> will need as many strange results as possible...?
*>* >>
*>* >> Probably this is the first attempt to run an open experiment on the
*>* EEGLAB
*>* >> mailing list--please join us and let's find out what happens!
*>* >>
*>* >> Makoto*
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