[Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

[Ernesto Pereda]

Dear colleagues

If there is still room for someone else, I would be happy to participate as
well

Ernesto Pereda

El sáb, 8 nov 2025, 16:09, Daniele Marinazzo via eeglablist <
eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu> escribió:

> Dear Makoto
> thanks for this initiative. I am happy to further discuss and eventually to
> participate in an open paper.
>
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 at 02:58, Makoto Miyakoshi via eeglablist <
> eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hello EEGLAB mailing list,
> >
> > Some of you may recall the long, dense, and ever-continuing discussion we
> > witnessed this summer about EEG’s 1/f power distribution. I’m sure many
> of
> > you wondered, “Can they please stop quoting papers while speaking?” That
> > conversation seemed to have ended on the list. But it has continued
> > off-list! And now, it has led to the idea of writing a collaborative
> paper.
> >
> > We’d like to invite anyone interested to join this open project. You
> don’t
> > need to be a specialist; genuine curiosity and a willingness to
> contribute
> > are what matter most.
> >
> > If you’d like to participate, please reply to this mailing list so that
> > everyone can stay in the loop.
> >
> > For those curious, I’ve also included below a brief history of EEGLAB
> > mailing list–initiated publications.
> >
> > Makoto
> >
> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> > There have been several papers initiated through collaborations among the
> > EEGLAB mailing list community and myself. Perhaps the most memorable one
> > was the *ICA's bug *paper:
> >
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/signal-processing/articles/10.3389/frsip.2023.1064138/full__;!!Mih3wA!Cbh-YHezfgaqMmBE5W3ZEgrQrVWaUWYz-KTmrvjznnSBUe4gGGPHnTU4wiXAUjuTUdp3kJzk20zqxfyCe0Sn4D1t7BQ$
> >
> > We can find the origin of this project in the following post.
> >
> > *On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at
> > ucsd.edu <
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>  >>
> > **Dear subscribers,
> > **Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data rank
> > issue **with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a
> > simulation **experiment **with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small
> > project on this issue for **publication. I would appreciate it if you
> > can give me any of the **following **as an input.*
> >
> > I made it festive: I invited a high-school intern to join as a co-author
> > (his coding skill was GOOD); I also invited a person whose name had been
> > mysteriously engraved for over a decade in an annotation of EEGLAB’s code
> > in question; I cited four authorities via unfashionable “private
> > communication”; and yes, I gave the paper a catchy title that the first
> > author did not like… etc., etc.
> >
> > >* > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at
> > ucsd.edu <
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>  >>
> > *>* wrote:
> > *>* >
> > *>* >> Dear subscribers,
> > *>* >>
> > *>* >> Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data rank
> > issue
> > *>* >> with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a simulation
> > *>* experiment
> > *>* >> with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small project on this issue
> for
> > *>* >> publication. I would appreciate it if you can give me any of the
> > *>* following
> > *>* >> as an input.
> > *>* >>
> > *>* >>   - Questions (what is puzzling for you? No need to be shy for
> > asking
> > *>* >>   'dumb questions')
> > *>* >>   - Requests (if you want to know particularly X and/or Y on this
> > issue,
> > *>* >>   I may be able to give you the answer based on the simulation
> test)
> > *>* >>   - Suggestions (about methods, data type, applications, etc)
> > *>* >>   - Reports (when ICA failed, what did you see?)
> > *>* >>
> > *>* >> If you are interested in working with me to make a contribution to
> > this
> > *>* >> small project, please reply or contact me mmiyakoshi at
> > ucsd.edu. <
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>  > If your
> > *>* >> contribution is substantial, I'll offer you to be a coauthor.
> > Probably
> > *>* we
> > *>* >> will need as many strange results as possible...?
> > *>* >>
> > *>* >> Probably this is the first attempt to run an open experiment on
> the
> > *>* EEGLAB
> > *>* >> mailing list--please join us and let's find out what happens!
> > *>* >>
> > *>* >> Makoto*
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