[Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

Tue Nov 11 23:24:26 PST 2025

Dear Makoto and eeglablist members,

Thank you for this in-depth discussion on the EEG’s 1/f power distribution and this proposal for an open collaborative project. I would be delighted to contribute if I can be of any help. I have experience in various EEG methods. I have added my information to the spreadsheet.

Best,

David Z.

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David Zarka, PhD
Assistant Professor
Faculty of Human Movement Sciences
Université Libre de Bruxelles
Belgium
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De : eeglablist <eeglablist-bounces at sccn.ucsd.edu> de la part de Makoto Miyakoshi via eeglablist <eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu>
Envoyé : vendredi 7 novembre 2025 16:17
À : EEGLAB List <eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu>
Objet : Re: [Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

Sorry, the Goodle Spreadsheet was not editable. My mistake.
Please access to the following link, confirm your name (if not, please add
it to the end of the rows), enter your info.

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Mate and I will meet on Zoom on Nov 7, 11 am - noon in EST (i.e., the New
York time zone). I invite you to jump in if you can make it.

The announced Zoom meeting will take place in 45 min.

Time: Nov 7, 2025 11:00 AM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
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Meeting ID: 982 1992 3907
Password: 681398

Makoto

On Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 10:10 AM SANI SAMINU via eeglablist <
eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu> wrote:

> Dear Makoto,
> I would be very interested to participate in this open project.
> Thank you
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2025, 4:05 PM Anirudh George via eeglablist <
> eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > Dear Makato and the members of the EEGLab community,
> >
> > I am a clinical neuropsychologist and currently attempting to apply EEG
> to
> > neurorehab.
> >
> > And I am very interested in collaborating and contributing to this
> project.
> > Since I am just a beginner in EEG data analysis, I'd be happy to
> contribute
> > to any basic pre-processing, or other simple processing steps that might
> > need to be done for the project.
> > I am also happy to help with any literature review, or any other tasks
> that
> > would help the project.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Anirudh
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 9:18 AM Rodrigo Jhampier Cáceres Robles via
> > eeglablist <eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Makoto and all members of this community.
> > >
> > > I would be very interested in joining this collaborative project.
> > > I’m new to this kind of community initiative, but I’m eager to
> contribute
> > > and learn more about the 1/f characteristics of EEG.
> > >
> > > My background is in experimental psychology, and I currently work with
> > > rodent EEG data in preclinical models of epilepsy. I would be glad to
> > help
> > > with data analysis, literature review, or any other task that supports
> > the
> > > group’s effort.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to collaborating with the group.
> > >
> > >
> > > El mar, 4 nov 2025 a la(s) 8:46 p.m., Makoto Miyakoshi via eeglablist (
> > > eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu) escribió:
> > >
> > > > Hello EEGLAB mailing list,
> > > >
> > > > Some of you may recall the long, dense, and ever-continuing
> discussion
> > we
> > > > witnessed this summer about EEG’s 1/f power distribution. I’m sure
> many
> > > of
> > > > you wondered, “Can they please stop quoting papers while speaking?”
> > That
> > > > conversation seemed to have ended on the list. But it has continued
> > > > off-list! And now, it has led to the idea of writing a collaborative
> > > paper.
> > > >
> > > > We’d like to invite anyone interested to join this open project. You
> > > don’t
> > > > need to be a specialist; genuine curiosity and a willingness to
> > > contribute
> > > > are what matter most.
> > > >
> > > > If you’d like to participate, please reply to this mailing list so
> that
> > > > everyone can stay in the loop.
> > > >
> > > > For those curious, I’ve also included below a brief history of EEGLAB
> > > > mailing list–initiated publications.
> > > >
> > > > Makoto
> > > >
> > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> > > > There have been several papers initiated through collaborations among
> > the
> > > > EEGLAB mailing list community and myself. Perhaps the most memorable
> > one
> > > > was the *ICA's bug *paper:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > >
> > > > We can find the origin of this project in the following post.
> > > >
> > > > *On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at
> > > > ucsd.edu <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7CDavid.Zarka*40ulb.be*7C57bd33715a114b53287108de1f18d962*7C30a5145e75bd4212bb028ff9c0ea4ae9*7C0*7C0*7C638982388757704216*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=Kc*2Fm4GnWciOzXLiy7p6CIPjjXGnLC23DP*2Fk8BisCZpM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!Mih3wA!Beo60MiIqvajRTN_GFXKGyOBjPcSd3SjJpl_qTg2P_rPZswEew2jvJXSbNqAGbJDQ5jfvco98le0p6KblTKsWjDEo90$      >>
> > > > **Dear subscribers,
> > > > **Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data rank
> > > > issue **with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a
> > > > simulation **experiment **with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small
> > > > project on this issue for **publication. I would appreciate it if you
> > > > can give me any of the **following **as an input.*
> > > >
> > > > I made it festive: I invited a high-school intern to join as a
> > co-author
> > > > (his coding skill was GOOD); I also invited a person whose name had
> > been
> > > > mysteriously engraved for over a decade in an annotation of EEGLAB’s
> > code
> > > > in question; I cited four authorities via unfashionable “private
> > > > communication”; and yes, I gave the paper a catchy title that the
> first
> > > > author did not like… etc., etc.
> > > >
> > > > >* > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at
> > > > ucsd.edu <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7CDavid.Zarka*40ulb.be*7C57bd33715a114b53287108de1f18d962*7C30a5145e75bd4212bb028ff9c0ea4ae9*7C0*7C0*7C638982388757720370*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=DMuBNCFD3ZW486mAHgmsOYxt41YKhBw2d9PGSXO74iU*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!Mih3wA!Beo60MiIqvajRTN_GFXKGyOBjPcSd3SjJpl_qTg2P_rPZswEew2jvJXSbNqAGbJDQ5jfvco98le0p6KblTKsyquR-GY$      >>
> > > > *>* wrote:
> > > > *>* >
> > > > *>* >> Dear subscribers,
> > > > *>* >>
> > > > *>* >> Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data
> > rank
> > > > issue
> > > > *>* >> with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a
> simulation
> > > > *>* experiment
> > > > *>* >> with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small project on this
> issue
> > > for
> > > > *>* >> publication. I would appreciate it if you can give me any of
> the
> > > > *>* following
> > > > *>* >> as an input.
> > > > *>* >>
> > > > *>* >>   - Questions (what is puzzling for you? No need to be shy for
> > > > asking
> > > > *>* >>   'dumb questions')
> > > > *>* >>   - Requests (if you want to know particularly X and/or Y on
> > this
> > > > issue,
> > > > *>* >>   I may be able to give you the answer based on the simulation
> > > test)
> > > > *>* >>   - Suggestions (about methods, data type, applications, etc)
> > > > *>* >>   - Reports (when ICA failed, what did you see?)
> > > > *>* >>
> > > > *>* >> If you are interested in working with me to make a
> contribution
> > to
> > > > this
> > > > *>* >> small project, please reply or contact me mmiyakoshi at
> > > > ucsd.edu. <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7CDavid.Zarka*40ulb.be*7C57bd33715a114b53287108de1f18d962*7C30a5145e75bd4212bb028ff9c0ea4ae9*7C0*7C0*7C638982388757736434*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=SbcWPep*2Fqj8AYkw3cGxslhPAvm9dH3Pm*2F01cfZeLcHc*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!Mih3wA!Beo60MiIqvajRTN_GFXKGyOBjPcSd3SjJpl_qTg2P_rPZswEew2jvJXSbNqAGbJDQ5jfvco98le0p6KblTKsWDq9nIc$      > If
> > your
> > > > *>* >> contribution is substantial, I'll offer you to be a coauthor.
> > > > Probably
> > > > *>* we
> > > > *>* >> will need as many strange results as possible...?
> > > > *>* >>
> > > > *>* >> Probably this is the first attempt to run an open experiment
> on
> > > the
> > > > *>* EEGLAB
> > > > *>* >> mailing list--please join us and let's find out what happens!
> > > > *>* >>
> > > > *>* >> Makoto*
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