[Eeglablist] Data change when updating eeglab from version 10 to 12

Makoto Miyakoshi mmiyakoshi at ucsd.edu
Tue Apr 30 08:00:36 PDT 2013


Dear Nicolas and Arno,

> some of these data, the stats are changing, whatever stats option i used
(parametric, permutations, with or without holms correction and bonferoni
correction).

Permutation results may change because this approach is based on random
permutation. However parametric test result should not. Could you check it
again?

> ERP's topographic map's ( the significant channels are not the same each
time i replot).

Significant channels? You mean you are running STUDY analysis using
channels? If that's the case I'm not experienced with it.

However, changing topographic maps is familiar with me. However, I want to
know exactly what you are doing (using ICs or channels)

Makoto

2013/4/26 Nicolas Rochet <nicolas.rochet at univ-provence.fr>

>  Hi Makoto,
> Firstly, I recomputed ERP, ERSP and ITC after updating to version 12. I
> realised that (when using the study's GUI with version 12) each time i plot
> some of these data, the stats are changing, whatever stats option i used
> (parametric, permutations, with or without holms correction and bonferoni
> correction).
> For example. when i try to compare ERSP maps in two different condition:
> each time i replot it, the corresponding stat map is changing while the
> ERSP map is the same. I had the same problem with ITC maps or for ERP's
> topographic map's ( the significant channels are not the same each time i
> replot).
>
> Do you have any idea ? Nobody seems to have reported similar issues ....
>
> Nicolas
>
> Le 18/04/2013 03:26, Makoto Miyakoshi a écrit :
>
> Dear Nicolas,
>
>  I'd be interested in learning how much the difference was. Would you
> mind explaining it to us?
>
>  Makoto
>
>
> 2013/4/15 Nicolas Rochet <nicolas.rochet at univ-provence.fr>
>
>> Dear EEGLAB community,
>> I was previously using eeglab version 10.2.2.4b. After updating EEGLAB
>> to  version 12.0.2.0b (with SVN) the SAME data (ie  ERP, ERSP and ITC
>> grand average) processed with the study protocol are different with the
>> two version
>> Does anybody encountered similar issues ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nicolas
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student
>> Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR 7291
>>
>> Université de Provence / CNRS
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>> 13331 Marseille Cedex 03
>> France
>>
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> Makoto Miyakoshi
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> Institute for Neural Computation, University of California San Diego
>
>
>
> --
> Nicolas Rochet, PhD Student
> Laboratoire de Neurosciences Cognitives, UMR 7291
>
> Université de Provence / CNRS
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> 13331 Marseille Cedex 03
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Makoto Miyakoshi
Swartz Center for Computational Neuroscience
Institute for Neural Computation, University of California San Diego
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