[Eeglablist] ICA: Mutually exclusive conditions only?

Makoto Miyakoshi mmiyakoshi at ucsd.edu
Fri Jul 10 18:28:17 PDT 2015

Dear Helen,

> Should we be certain that all our conditions are mutually exclusive

Not necessarily. Seeing alphabet A and B is quite redundant for the brain
but not for psychologists :-)

> with no overlapping trials?

If the overlap is partial, it may bias ICA (for example, you feed 100 sec
of Condition A and 200 sec of Condition B to ICA, the results are more
biased to Condition B in theory). If the overlap is complete e.g. exact
repetition of the data, ICA will not be biased.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Helen L. Wieffering <hwieffer at bowdoin.edu>

>  Hi All,
> When using ICA, we are concatenating our conditions into a single dataset
> and running them jointly.
> Should we be certain that all our conditions are mutually exclusive, with
> no overlapping trials? Or is this a non-issue? Looking for an explanation
> on how (or whether) ICA operates differently if certain trials are
> represented more than others.
> Thanks for any and all help.
> Helen Wieffering
> Bowdoin College

Makoto Miyakoshi
Swartz Center for Computational Neuroscience
Institute for Neural Computation, University of California San Diego
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