[Eeglablist] Apologies

[Makoto Miyakoshi]

Dear Rogene,

> As a scientist, I would like to learn more about ICA and I have often
felt bullied trying to ask questions about this within some clinical
forums.

I made an ICA demo. Please try it and let me know what you think. This is
my favorite plugin. My colleagues enjoyed my demonstration.

https://sccn.ucsd.edu/wiki/SevenSegmenticaDemo

Makoto

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:44 AM Rogene Eichler West, Ph.D. <
rogene at brainhealthnorthwest.com> wrote:

>
> I would like to apologize for the comment I posted to this forum a few
> days ago where I made a snarky remark about Dr. Thatcher’s position on ICA.
>
> I realize that your algorithms are primarily based on ICA. I was
> inappropriately expressing my frustration with the frequent lectures by Dr.
> Thatcher about ICA. While I am aware of the studies he cites, I also
> believe that every mathematical tool has an appropriate place in our
> analysis space, and the fact that so many use this tool suggests that the
> matter is not closed. As a scientist, I would like to learn more about ICA
> and I have often felt bullied trying to ask questions about this within
> some clinical forums. The topic of ICA has been divisive in our EEG/neuro
> community, and my emotions have been heightened as I have been feeling the
> strain of living in a nation that is so incredibly divisive..
>
> None the less, it was wrong of me to act on this frustration and call him
> out by name in a public forum.
>
> I was made aware of the following two papers comparing LORETA (albeit
> z-score) to 1-channel neurofeedback.
>
> Koberda, J. L., Moses, A., Koberda, P., & Koberda, L. (2012) Comparison of
> the effectiveness of z-score surface/LORETA 19-electrodes neurofeedback to
> standard 1-electrode neurofeedback. Proceedings of the 2012 International
> Society for Neurofeedback and Research (ISNR), Orlando, Florida, Journal of
> Neurotherapy: Investigations in Neuromodulation, Neurofeedback and Applied
> Neuroscience, 16:4, 295-315, DOI: 10.1080/10874208.2012.729984
>
> Koberda J.L, Moses A, Koberda P, Koberda L. Comparison of the
> Effectiveness of Z-Score Surface/LORETA 19-Electrodes Neurofeedback to
> Standard 1-Electrode Neurofeedback. J. of Neurotherapy, 4, p-302,
> 2012.rigbaum, G., & Wigton, N. L. (2015). A Methodology of Analysis for
> Monitoring Treatment Progression with 19-Channel Z-Score Neurofeedback
> (19ZNF) in a Single-Subject Design.<
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25777656__;!!Mih3wA!Wxp23-vD9bnw9Vaq6ekidF5PJixB2JaizGBvTnWDrtm0DPmzHGTKNj_CpDqQpxdQE7g-CA$
> > Applied Psychophysiology and Biofeedback. 40(3), 139–149. doi:
> 10.1007/s10484-015-9274-0
> My offer still stands to demo any of the tools that we use in clinical
> practice. I look forward to spending more time learning to use your toolkit
> as well.
>
> Be safe and well.
>
>                 -R
>
>
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