[Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

Thu Nov 6 05:14:19 PST 2025

I followed the conversation with some interest as well. You might be aware that I recently published a registered report in Psychophysiology that attempted to shed some light on these issues (Oscillatory and Aperiodic Contributions to EEG Event‐Related Time‐Frequency Metrics During Cognitive Control and Reinforcement Processing: A Registered Report - PMC https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://share.google/hrsVj0cLrJ7wKk8Z1__;!!Mih3wA!Bz4GI8TcEdvMn-E8Mz40d9akDlGLE5GNRtLbmK5ynY8zMSBeSlEuQgDiDAR95KN7Q4PWtLiJ8pgNxqWtW2gn3Q$ ). I would be happy to discuss or consult on analysis on this project, or to be an author as things shake out. Feel free to hit me up.

Best, Eric

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From: eeglablist <eeglablist-bounces at sccn.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Hanna Szakács via eeglablist <eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2025 8:03:08 AM
To: Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at ucsd.edu>
Cc: EEGLAB List <eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [Eeglablist] Invitation to collaborate on an open paper about EEG’s 1/f power distribution

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Hello everyone,

I was reading the mentioned conversation with great interest. I'm no expert
in this field but would be interested to see how I could contribute.

Best wishes,
Hanna

Makoto Miyakoshi via eeglablist <eeglablist at sccn.ucsd.edu> ezt írta
(időpont: 2025. nov. 5., Sze, 3:02):

> Hello EEGLAB mailing list,
>
> Some of you may recall the long, dense, and ever-continuing discussion we
> witnessed this summer about EEG’s 1/f power distribution. I’m sure many of
> you wondered, “Can they please stop quoting papers while speaking?” That
> conversation seemed to have ended on the list. But it has continued
> off-list! And now, it has led to the idea of writing a collaborative paper.
>
> We’d like to invite anyone interested to join this open project. You don’t
> need to be a specialist; genuine curiosity and a willingness to contribute
> are what matter most.
>
> If you’d like to participate, please reply to this mailing list so that
> everyone can stay in the loop.
>
> For those curious, I’ve also included below a brief history of EEGLAB
> mailing list–initiated publications.
>
> Makoto
>
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> There have been several papers initiated through collaborations among the
> EEGLAB mailing list community and myself. Perhaps the most memorable one
> was the *ICA's bug *paper:
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fwww.frontiersin.org*2Fjournals*2Fsignal-processing*2Farticles*2F10.3389*2Ffrsip.2023.1064138*2Ffull__*3B!!Mih3wA!Cbh-YHezfgaqMmBE5W3ZEgrQrVWaUWYz-KTmrvjznnSBUe4gGGPHnTU4wiXAUjuTUdp3kJzk20zqxfyCe0Sn4D1t7BQ*24&data=05*7C02*7Crawlse*40uncw.edu*7C41572081eaed438cba2108de1cb48b9b*7C2213678197534c75af2868a078871ebf*7C0*7C0*7C638979758915573985*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=6PlSyVVc4*2Fzrb*2F0oZprXurT0Kk1*2Fmrd12SM8Tfjncig*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!Mih3wA!Bz4GI8TcEdvMn-E8Mz40d9akDlGLE5GNRtLbmK5ynY8zMSBeSlEuQgDiDAR95KN7Q4PWtLiJ8pgNxqU7T-86Gw$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/signal-processing/articles/10.3389/frsip.2023.1064138/full__;!!Mih3wA!Cbh-YHezfgaqMmBE5W3ZEgrQrVWaUWYz-KTmrvjznnSBUe4gGGPHnTU4wiXAUjuTUdp3kJzk20zqxfyCe0Sn4D1t7BQ$>
>
> We can find the origin of this project in the following post.
>
> *On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at
> ucsd.edu <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7Crawlse*40uncw.edu*7C41572081eaed438cba2108de1cb48b9b*7C2213678197534c75af2868a078871ebf*7C0*7C0*7C638979758915597093*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=Xw3iIlaxAjwhpfW0lKpL3kTt9OwyZU5bkPGKf3*2BaqPY*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!Mih3wA!Bz4GI8TcEdvMn-E8Mz40d9akDlGLE5GNRtLbmK5ynY8zMSBeSlEuQgDiDAR95KN7Q4PWtLiJ8pgNxqWCvi2P-Q$   >>
> **Dear subscribers,
> **Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data rank
> issue **with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a
> simulation **experiment **with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small
> project on this issue for **publication. I would appreciate it if you
> can give me any of the **following **as an input.*
>
> I made it festive: I invited a high-school intern to join as a co-author
> (his coding skill was GOOD); I also invited a person whose name had been
> mysteriously engraved for over a decade in an annotation of EEGLAB’s code
> in question; I cited four authorities via unfashionable “private
> communication”; and yes, I gave the paper a catchy title that the first
> author did not like… etc., etc.
>
> >* > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 2:25 PM Makoto Miyakoshi <mmiyakoshi at
> ucsd.edu <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7Crawlse*40uncw.edu*7C41572081eaed438cba2108de1cb48b9b*7C2213678197534c75af2868a078871ebf*7C0*7C0*7C638979758915613902*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ThQH57EePSXqKi1gGJLQDBTe5jU8K9VEPFrSKAu51P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!Mih3wA!Bz4GI8TcEdvMn-E8Mz40d9akDlGLE5GNRtLbmK5ynY8zMSBeSlEuQgDiDAR95KN7Q4PWtLiJ8pgNxqWFSZFGVg$   >>
> *>* wrote:
> *>* >
> *>* >> Dear subscribers,
> *>* >>
> *>* >> Recently, there are multiple independent posts about the data rank
> issue
> *>* >> with ICA. In response, I am thinking about running a simulation
> *>* experiment
> *>* >> with a visiting scholar to SCCN as a small project on this issue for
> *>* >> publication. I would appreciate it if you can give me any of the
> *>* following
> *>* >> as an input.
> *>* >>
> *>* >>   - Questions (what is puzzling for you? No need to be shy for
> asking
> *>* >>   'dumb questions')
> *>* >>   - Requests (if you want to know particularly X and/or Y on this
> issue,
> *>* >>   I may be able to give you the answer based on the simulation test)
> *>* >>   - Suggestions (about methods, data type, applications, etc)
> *>* >>   - Reports (when ICA failed, what did you see?)
> *>* >>
> *>* >> If you are interested in working with me to make a contribution to
> this
> *>* >> small project, please reply or contact me mmiyakoshi at
> ucsd.edu. <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fsccn.ucsd.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Feeglablist&data=05*7C02*7Crawlse*40uncw.edu*7C41572081eaed438cba2108de1cb48b9b*7C2213678197534c75af2868a078871ebf*7C0*7C0*7C638979758915634373*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=bglMTeEvTacI7SNoQj4uVY1*2BuQe32lWPqb7*2F18K85JI*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!Mih3wA!Bz4GI8TcEdvMn-E8Mz40d9akDlGLE5GNRtLbmK5ynY8zMSBeSlEuQgDiDAR95KN7Q4PWtLiJ8pgNxqWWR8wlXA$   > If your
> *>* >> contribution is substantial, I'll offer you to be a coauthor.
> Probably
> *>* we
> *>* >> will need as many strange results as possible...?
> *>* >>
> *>* >> Probably this is the first attempt to run an open experiment on the
> *>* EEGLAB
> *>* >> mailing list--please join us and let's find out what happens!
> *>* >>
> *>* >> Makoto*
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