[Eeglablist] rerun ICA to improve ocular artifacts removal

Tarik S Bel-Bahar tarikbelbahar at gmail.com
Sun Feb 19 11:42:42 PST 2012


Rerunning a second Ica should work, but I don't think you should be
removing components. Try ica_based artifactual epoch rejection instead,
using really or fake epochs.

However, with sleep data things might be different.
On Feb 18, 2012 9:58 AM, "Daniela Dentico" <dentico at wisc.edu> wrote:

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> Hi! I was wondering if it does make sense on a theoretical point of view
> to rerun ICA on
> data cleaned from artifacts with a previous ICA if the result is not
> satisfactory.
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> I'm analyzing continuous waking data
> (256 channels EEG) from a subject with a huge amount of eyes movements.
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> Before ICA the topography was
> completely dominated by eyes movements. After removing independent
> components
> that isolated ocular artifacts, there was a big improvement, with a 10
> times reduction
> of the power of ocular artifacts in the theta band for instance. Eyes
> movements were still there
> though.
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> I tried to run ICA a second time
> on the clean data. I'm very doubtful about the quality of this second
> decomposition since many source activation time courses (scroll component
> activities) look very weird,, with a lot of high frequency activity, as
> you can see from the enclosed file ('ICactivation') that show the first 10%
> of the sources activities. I also enclosed a screen shot of the first 8
> components of this second run of ICA and a higher magnification image of
> the continuous data for the first component.
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> Any cue/suggestion/explanation?
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> Thank you!
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> Daniela
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> Daniela Dentico, MD PhD
> Center for Sleep and Consciousness
> University of Wisconsin - Madison
> 6001 Research Park Boulevard
> Madison, Wisconsin 53719
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